Your Opinion: If a male student under age 18 has consensual sex with a female school teacher, is he the "Victim" of a crime?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 03/02/2010 - 22:33.

I am a 17 year old female. I live in Rhode Island and am currently sexually involved with a 24 year old male. We are both well aware of what we are doing, and before consumating our "relationship", we did a little research and concluded that there was nothing illegal about our sexual involvement. However, because of the nature of our sexual acts, as they tend to be on the sodomistic side of things, I have become rather concerned about the RI state laws specific to such sex acts. I am assuming that everything is still legally acceptable, but I just wanted to verify my assumptions.

Submitted by Keith Richard Radford Jr (not verified) on Mon, 01/25/2010 - 07:01.

Laws about sex needs to washed from the books. People who use laws about sex are as guilty as the one who wants to make the other suffer for having sex. That includes the Judge, Jurors the seducer/the seduced. Surely threats are made if you don’t have sex or visa versa. Get caught and call a cop? Get in bed with someone you want to case pain is the montage used and both are wrong if that is the desire to use sex as a weapon. Some say sex is only for procreation and they are dead wrong too. The law (Lifetime sex offender registry} is dead and wrong! Look if you make a law it is for one thing and one thing only like a law against homosexuality in Africa to kill homosexuals. Sex is not nor has ever been something laws should be enacted for and the ones who do never in vision equality of sexes. The law is to curb any chance of equality between sexes. If the laws were abolished then sexes would have a chance to be equal naturally. If women really wanted equality they would trash this law too but they don’t do they? No equal rights for women is a joke huh? Any person or judge that thinks they are doing something good by publicly abusing someone like using their image without their approval is legally irreproachable and disgustingly encroaching as they are legally disgusting. I’m confident if someone Photoshopped JJ in bed with a child she would be upset. What is the difference when the justice system lies in a plea bargain? I find that worse by far. What’s the difference JJ’s Pisseded off for being photoshoped in bed with a boy toy or a lying justice system pushing a law that has no focus/worth/vision or true care for anyone just to make laws put people in prison and charge the nation for their own mental disorder in a system that is off base and their base man is out! Law’s have been in place for years but what use are they when someone can dismiss the child telling them and looking for help. The power must be removed from the discerning/discriminating minds that chose to prosecute by their discursion when their discursion is as flawed as the laws they enacted impacting us all by poor planning. The justice system says they are concerned with the rule of law? I say BullSh*T~ don’t float monkey breath try it! [gotca] Attacks by populism? Nobody smokes sherm anymore do they? Sure people can see the results; it took a little time but bingo! America can win against the machine. Do you know where your kid is??? for real??? and if he not is he dead or just being a kid who needs your help and you just don’t have the time or stomach for them??? Or are we spending too much on wars??? Prisons, Processes, Scanners??? Building wall’s this is about you, get some time with your kids and find out how to make their life better by not selling their future to a screw/compuss and you paid advertisers for laws that make no cents but lots of cash, you’re a shame. So frankly speaking the lawmakers and the drum bangers have the floor, the agenda was alive before we were born and w/the internet and the light shown has proved the laws created to con~/troll for sex offenders have been the way we get people to do jobs no one wants, by forcing them to take um like shoe shining for the underlings of these mindless freeks.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 12/12/2009 - 06:39.

WELL TO BE HONEST WHERE I LIVE IN MISSISSIPPI,YOU CAN'T RAPE THESE YOUNG GIRL,CAUSE THEY ARE GIVING IT UP AND NOT WITH BOYS THEIR AGE AND TO ME ITS A WASTE OF TIME WHEN YOU COME AT THESE YOUNG MEN CAUSE ONCE YOU LOCK THEM UP THEY ARE LOOKING FOR THE NEXT ONE,BEEN A YOUNG WOMAN AT ONE TIME I HAD A OLDER MAN AND A BABY AND NO HE WASN'T MY AGE THIS KIND OF STUFF HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MANY YEAR AND STILL IS,BUT WAT GET ME IS THAT THEY SAID THAT AT A YOUNG AGE YOU CAN CONSENT BUT IN MY HEART THESE YOUNG GIRL KNOWS WAT THEY ARE DOING BUT WHEN THE LAW MAKER REALLY DON'T KNOW WATS GOING ON IT IS SO EASY TO MAKE THESE LAW BUT YOU NEED TO COME AND LIVE IN THE STATE OF MISSISSIPPI AND YOU WILL SEE THIS,BUT NOW TO ME AT THE AGE OF 14 HELL I WAS HAVING SEX AND NO IT WASN'T WITH ANYONE MY AGE JUST SPEAKING THE TRUTH AND BEEN HONEST WHICH ALOT OF PEOPLE WOULD RATHER LIE THEN TO TELL THE TRUTH AND YOU HAVE SOME PARENTS THAT KNOWS WHAT WAS GOING ON BUT THEN WHEN SOMEONE ELSE FIND OUT ABOUT IT THEN THEY WANT TO HOLLA A BUNCH OF BULL,IF A YOUNG GIRL SEE SOMEONE SHE WANTS YES THEY WILL GET IT AT ALL COST SO STOP WASTING TAX PAYER MONEY ON SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO ON AND YES BOY AND GIRL ARE BOTH DOING IT AND SOMETIME YOU CAN CONTROL WHO YOU FALL N LOVE WITH AND SOMETIME THESE PEOPLE ACTUALLY GET MARRY BUT IF YOU TAKE A GROWN MAN MESSING WITH A CHILD YES IT IS A PROBLEM BUT THESE 14,15,16, YEAR OLD GIRL ARE HAVING SEX MORE THEN ME AND I'AM FORTY AND THEY AREN'T DOING IT WITH GUY THEIR AGE SO GET REAL SOMEONE NEED TO REDO THESE LAWS

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 12/09/2009 - 11:49.

If an overage man does something sexual with an underage girl but they did not have sex and he is not aware of her age. It was not rape because both agreed. Is it still a crime?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 01/18/2010 - 22:38.

Yes, it is still a crime. Even if the girl did give consent to have some sort of sexual relationships with that man. It is not considered rape, but it is considered statutory rape. Please read the following information, and if this was something that happened recently to you or someone else please contact local authorities!

Statutory rape is illegal sexual activity between two people when it would otherwise be legal if not for their age

In accordance with the FBI definition, statutory rape is characterized as non-forcible sexual intercourse with a person who is younger than the statutory age of consent. The actual ages for these laws vary greatly from state-to-state, as do the punishments for offenders.

Many states do not use the actual term "statutory rape," simply calling it rape or unlawful sexual penetration among a variety of other titles. These laws rarely apply only to intercourse, but rather to any type of sexual contact.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 11/03/2009 - 19:14.

what are the consiquences if two people the same age, under the age of 18, were to conflict in sexual terms? are there any consequences? fill me in please

Submitted by Candi (not verified) on Thu, 11/05/2009 - 20:52.

The most important word here is consentual. When it is consentual sex, no matter what the age of the participants, it is not rape.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 02/23/2010 - 18:40.

He was talking about what the poster asked... Which was if they were BOTH UNDER 18. If it is consensual and they are both under 18, it is not considered rape.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 12/04/2009 - 07:30.

So you're good with a 49-year-old having sex with a 4-year-old?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 12/01/2009 - 19:35.

So are you really saying that if a 10 year old male or female, sees sex on tv and wants to do it with an older person, either male or femal, its not rape? By you theory..as long as the 10 year old wants it s/he could hae sex with a 30 year old and its not rape? And thats ok with you?

Submitted by Kireon (not verified) on Thu, 10/01/2009 - 10:58.

If two guys are sexualy active and one is 25 and the other is 17 is that consider statutory rape

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 11/03/2009 - 10:52.

Yes is is considered statutory rape. He is still a minor. Ask his mother and see what she thinks.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 02/23/2010 - 20:59.

If a child is over the age of 15 they know what they are doing. any younger then that it is wrong. We as paents and teacher adult are the ones who need to realize our kids are grow up fast these day andknow alot more then we did. if kids can drive at 16 i think they should be smarter to make the right chocie about sex and with who and what age. if u think about half of us that are married are 5 or more older then our other.

Submitted by administrator on Tue, 10/06/2009 - 06:35.

It depends on what state you reside and what the age of consent laws are for homosexual activity between a minor and an adult. Also, generally speaking, in all states it is illegal for a teacher, school official, or person of authority such as, coach, assistant coach, etc... to engage in any sexual contact with a minor student.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 09/26/2009 - 21:56.

No, the dude isn't necessarily a victim. Most dudes in that situation would consider themselves lucky.
Just about every guy had a teacher he wanted to screw in high school. Van Halen even wrote a song about it.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 08/25/2009 - 22:10.

I live in missouri and i guess they just changed the law. They said you can be 15 and consent to however old as long as your parents consent to it. I think that is fair. When I was 15 I was messing around with a guy who was 24. I thought I was very mature for my age and knew the consequences of what could happen. i.e. diseases and pregnancy. My grandpa did catch us together one night and called the police but they couldnt do anything because we both denied everything. There was a second call about 2 weeks later to the police regarding us and they still could not do anything because again we denied denied denied. When I was younger I really did like guys that were older than me because I thought all the guys my age were so immature. Now I am 19 and I am with a 20 year old. We have a 4 month old baby. I think when you are 15 you should be able to consent because more than likely you have already takin sex ed and you have already been taught everything.

Submitted by administrator on Fri, 08/28/2009 - 05:41.

Missouri Revised Statutes Entire Chapter 566 Sex Offense Laws

Missouri Law - Statutory rape, second degree, penalty.

566.034.

1. A person commits the crime of statutory rape in the second degree if being twenty-one years of age or older, he has sexual intercourse with another person who is less than seventeen years of age.

2. Statutory rape in the second degree is a class C felony.

Missouri Law - Statutory rape and attempt to commit, first degree, penalties.

566.032.

1. A person commits the crime of statutory rape in the first degree if he has sexual intercourse with another person who is less than fourteen years old.

2. Statutory rape in the first degree or an attempt to commit statutory rape in the first degree is a felony for which the authorized term of imprisonment is life imprisonment or a term of years not less than five years, unless in the course thereof the actor inflicts serious physical injury on any person, displays a deadly weapon or dangerous instrument in a threatening manner, subjects the victim to sexual intercourse or deviate sexual intercourse with more than one person, or the victim is less than twelve years of age in which case the authorized term of imprisonment is life imprisonment or a term of years not less than ten years.

Missouri Law - Mistake as to incapacity or age--consent not a defense, when.

566.020.

1. Whenever in this chapter the criminality of conduct depends upon a victim's being incapacitated, no crime is committed if the actor reasonably believed that the victim was not incapacitated and reasonably believed that the victim consented to the act. The defendant shall have the burden of injecting the issue of belief as to capacity and consent.

2. Whenever in this chapter the criminality of conduct depends upon a child being thirteen years of age or younger, it is no defense that the defendant believed the child to be older.

3. Whenever in this chapter the criminality of conduct depends upon a child being under seventeen years of age, it is an affirmative defense that the defendant reasonably believed that the child was seventeen years of age or older.

4. Consent is not an affirmative defense to any offense under chapter 566 if the alleged victim is less than twelve years of age.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 08/13/2009 - 15:32.

To me, the idea that teenagers under the age of 18 are all a pack of naive, hormonal, idiots with no self control is completely ridiculous. The only difference between the average adult and me is lack of experience, which doesn't justify the fact that most people claim we lack common sense. I would like to think that most people over the age of 13 have enough going on upstairs to understand the ramifications of having sex with someone. The seldom few that don't are the exception, not the rule, and the fact that the law was made to protect the few minors who don't have enough willpower to control their hormonal urges, not to protect the vast majority who do astounds me.

P.S.
I found it ironic that most of the people who posted things about the ignorance of the average teenager cant even spell or use proper punctuation.

Submitted by Rab (not verified) on Fri, 01/08/2010 - 23:44.

I quote The seldom few that don't are the exception, not the rule, and the fact that the law was made to protect the few minors who don't have enough willpower to control their hormonal urges, not to protect the vast majority who do astounds met is for that very reason that the law is in place end quote
This is the very reason that the law is in place to protect the few who cannot controll themselves or are unable to understand and are vulnerable. NOT the majority who do. I do not see why this astounds you at all. We must protect the weaker amongst us. Not the majority who stand a better chance of protecting themselves.
Now do you understand?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Sat, 11/28/2009 - 16:51.

I agree with you 100%. Never once as a teenager 20 years ago did I wonder about the cost of having sex. Then we led much more sheltered lives with significantly less exposure to adult situations. Sex education was unheard of and parents were too embarrassed to talk about sex. Statutory laws were passed to slow or stop the incidents of teen pregnancy at the hands of influential older men taking "advantage" of inexperienced younger women which is not an easy feat to pull off these days.

Submitted by ThePatriarch (not verified) on Mon, 07/13/2009 - 21:17.

first read these two web pages:

http://ageofconsent.com/comments/teenromance.htm

http://ageofconsent.com/comments/adultchildsex.htm

When you create a law supposedly to apprehend criminals WHO CREATE VICTIMS/DAMAGE but you paint with a BROAD BRUSH where many people who create no damage at all are swept away in it also, and you know, or should know, that this law is actually creating more damage than it is correcting (like the surveys mentioned on the second webpage illustrated), and you refuse, over and over again to fine tune that law, and you create one, after another, after another (like DUI laws, drug laws, most regulatory laws, etc...) then you are left with no other conclusion that the OBJECTIVE is to WAGE WAR ON INNOCENTS!

It is clear, that for example, if a 15 year old minor girl was repeatedly sexually active with partners of many ages, both adult and minors, spoke openly about it, and acted as a free agent, refusing to go to school and be put under any restrictions from any adult (constructively emancipated), then was allegedly propositioned by a 40 year old man who she snubbed, that he should be able to use her worldliness and free agency as a defense to soliciation of a minor for sex.

This accusation actually happened to a friend of mine and the whole female side of the family went into hysterics. Of course, either right before, or right after the 15 year old had an affair with a 30 year old. Of course, the 15 year old's mom first got married to a 40 year old at age 18 and had been living with him for two years, BUT THAT WAS OK FOR SOME STRANGE REASON!!!

I made the case that their real issue was that the law should be changed from "statutory rape" to "statutory lack of game" because it was OK for the mom since her 40 year old hubby to be had "game" and my friend didn't as my friend was not able to get the attention of the minor in a *favorable* manner.

Anyway, the teen went on to tell her friend about the alleged incident who was the son of a business owner that my friend was working for and had him fired and his house was subsequently foreclosed (fixed rate, not an ARM).

The whole incident is very murky and the guy has an otherwise stellar reputation, having his own, and step daughters, and having gone through rocky divorces where no such allegations were ever raised.

It is my position that the teen committed civil defamation, and perhaps even criminal libel (as such an accuation, regardless of whether true or not, would be such to induce the average man to violence) but there is no outrage nor hysteria over that behavior but the veracity of the teens story is absolutely beyond reproach.

Oh, for a final spin, the teen has made virtually the exact same allegation against two other men also!

My issue is, as soon as the law departs from common sense (and the common law), where does it end? For instance now, we are getting to the point where we can be put on "terrorist watch lists," have no right to a fair hearing on the issue, could be renditioned in the middle of the night by storm troopers, tortured, and indefinitely put in concentration camps. Are we not to conclude that these victimless, overly broad, subjective laws were just stepping stones to tyranny?

Does anyone think I'm wrong for standing up for my friend against the hysterical feminists in this family?

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 07/09/2009 - 22:27.

you know, i was once told and have heard from many different sources that the only true thing that seperates us from the rest of the animals and species on earth is our free will. Well, so far since our existance of civilization, weve made laws to control people in all aspects with sex being the topic of discussion. Who is anyone to say whether or not someone can love and/or be sexually active with another person. While saying that, i realize that one who is 30 shouldnt be with a minor of 12 sexually, but who are we to control whom others ingage in sexual intercourse with? i guess we're nobody, nobody but another animal. Brought to such a standing from the loss of the one thing we hold dearly, seperating us from all other living creatures; our free will. We set out to create a society of respectful, well-mannered, safe, and responsible children and adults, and we turned ourselves into animals. So, the next time you go to have someone arrested whose having sex with your child in a manner of consensual sex, think about that.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Tue, 05/19/2009 - 17:13.

One of My Grandpas was 10 years older than his wife. On the other side, My Grandma got Married at AGE SIXTEEN. He Died now, but went 50 years without a Divorce and talks about him Non-Stop. Did she not date before 16? Mary the Mother of Jesus, the common time of Marriage in that erra was Age 12 1/2! So she was probably 13 or 14? I watched the Movie "Fools Gold" and in it, is an Old Rich Man that Married a young Stripper probably 40 years younger than him. Hugh Heffner loves young Ditzy women. I guess I write this, because my friend drives school bus where a bunch of Middle Schoolers blow condoms up and toss them around like balloons. He's 23, and three of them want to have sex with him. And he's like, "Jeez, they've already done it more times than ME!" (he's a struggeling Christian) Sex is so prevalent within the culture nowadays. There has been a demographic change in American Society where Girls are having their periods YOUNGER and YOUNGER as time goes by, due to constant increased hormonal stimuli from advertisements, that it has affected the age of puberty. Almost every song on the radio is directed towards and or around Sex. I guess, if there is an overly attractive young woman, D cup Size 1, Even if she was Age 14... I dunno I guess most girls are already on their way to being sluts, watching Sex and the City over and over again, I really think America needs to get away from this whole ridiculous Way Overly Drastic Punishments. Sure keep them on the books, to say, "This is what we stand for" but almost every law in teh book should be cut by more than half, 1/4 of the true sentence. And give Way more power to the Individuals Involved. America is based on the idea that the closer people are to the issue, the better knowledge they have of if it is right or wrong. Federal Law, State Law, It should eventually give ALL the power to those involved. Plus what is "Weird or Tabboo" is completely brainwashed into us by what we "think" we should say. I would say, Sex Laws, The GUY is Definitely the Victim, when the Girls are the ones pursuing.

Submitted by dido (not verified) on Thu, 12/17/2009 - 10:06.

Very good post, thanks a lot.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 04/17/2009 - 08:10.

What do I do? I don't want to ruin his future but I laid the law when they started liking each other and they went behind my back and did it anyway. Do I stick to my guns and enforce the rules? I have given them the chance to avoid the charges but I am finding that I am not being taken seriously.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 08/27/2009 - 20:30.

if i were you i would report him to the authorities as soon as possible period

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Wed, 06/10/2009 - 20:40.

is he pushing is she regard less at that age 15 18 its young there hormons are going crazy if you put him in jail for it it may sain him for life an you 15 year old get a free past ask your self is that rigt and then what if they get married then you have cripaled your owe think about it the power is your

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 04/23/2009 - 11:40.

I completly understand your concern, however, I would highly discourage you from taking such drastic measures. A better alternative would be to make sure that your daughter has the education, support, and resources that she needs to keep herself protected from pregnancy and STD/STI's. If you have her boyfriend arrested, this may ruin your relationship with your daughter, you need to make sure that your are taking her feelings into account also.

Submitted by Lizzy (not verified) on Sat, 04/04/2009 - 16:43.

I don't think that an overage person should be registered as a sex offender for having consensual sex with someone over the age of 13. I think at that age they are old enough to make their own decisions

Submitted by Ashley (not verified) on Fri, 04/10/2009 - 20:48.

I am a 14 yr old girl that is being a leged victim of rape of child in the second degree.The person that is getting charged with that is my feoncia,When we first met i told him i was 15 going on 16.and we had a sex a few times. But when i confessed my real age we did not have sex at all.The law is trying to say that he had sex with me after he found out my real age and he did not.

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